I2P Dev Meeting - December 11, 2012

20:20:09 <str4d> <str4d> Not sure where dg is, so I propose that we get the meeting started anyway, continuing on with the agenda from last week (or restarting it if necessary). 20:20:09 <str4d> (http://zzz.i2p/posts/5779) 20:20:18 <iRelay> Title: zzz.i2p: IRC Meetings (at zzz.i2p) 20:40:14 <str4d> No one going to reply? 20:41:48 <Meeh> I'm in for a meeting 20:42:09 <Meeh> but IRC was really unstable today 20:51:48 <str4d> Does someone want to chair and start a meeting? No idea where dg has got to, and I've got to leave partway though so I can't. 20:52:40 <str4d> Looks like iRelay is on postman's server, so if the chair is also there then disconnects won't affect the meeting log. 21:01:13 <psi> meeting was...? 21:01:32 * lillith volunteers to chair once i have zzz.i2p loaded succesfully 21:04:05 <psi> meeting is now rite? 21:05:43 <lillith> yep unless anyone else wants to chair 21:07:16 <psi> ok 21:07:16 <psi> topics? 21:07:16 <lillith> So, Carrying on from where we left off last week, orion are you in here? 21:09:52 <psi> sounds doable 21:09:54 <lillith> i'm not sure what for though, seems a little pointless to me at least 21:10:20 <psi> to make a more structured environment for helping users 21:10:27 <psi> iirc 21:10:48 <topiltzin> more like pool resources 21:11:05 <topiltzin> +1 on that but iirc someone had to be asked first (the owner of the channel? who is/was that?) 21:11:13 <lillith> so combine two fairly dead channels to a less dead one? 21:11:50 <topiltzin> yah 21:12:23 <lillith> okay item 2a: who owns each cannel and what do they think? 21:12:50 <lillith> 2b: is the new channel #i2p or #i2p-help? 21:12:57 * postman owns #i2p and thinks nothing in particular 21:13:31 <postman> #i2p should keep its name 21:13:33 <lillith> 2c: ask someone to delete one and redirect people to the other 21:13:38 <postman> zzz owns #i2p-help 21:14:10 <psi> i suppose the ircd can do a "symlink" of sorts for channels? 21:14:12 <lillith> i think new users need an obvious 'help' channel to go to first when they connect 21:14:31 <lillith> otherwise they will just ask in random channels 21:14:51 <postman> re: symlink. i will check that 21:16:35 <lillith> okay, item 2 dealt with? 21:18:16 <lillith> item 3: website revamp updates. 21:18:35 <lillith> str4d, any news? 21:18:37 <psi> how many are working on that? 21:23:13 <lillith> psi: afaik only str4d 21:28:17 <lillith> re: Item 4 : 0.9.4 Console links additions, i think str4d has gone and books isn't here, maybe next week? 21:28:17 <str4d> lillith, about to go afk 21:28:26 <str4d> But website page reorganization is basically done. 21:33:45 <str4d> I'd like some feedback from people on it (navigation and url structure) - see ticket #807 for the live url 21:33:48 <iRelay> http://trac.i2p2.i2p/ticket/807 - (accepted enhancement) - Revamp of website 21:33:50 <str4d> And that ticket also lists the next todo items for the revamp. 21:33:50 <lillith> okay, thanks :) 21:34:09 <lillith> item 5 ; 0.9.4 release 21:35:46 <lillith> zzz, are you still aiming for mid-december? 21:39:52 <zzz> monday. see also /topic and http://zzz.i2p/topics/1252 21:39:55 <zzz> and re: console link additions, that agenda item can be pushed out 6 weeks for 0.9.5 21:45:02 <lillith> okay thanks :) 21:45:09 <lillith> item 6 : any notes from participants 21:45:09 <lillith> ... anyone? 21:45:09 <psi> notes? 21:45:09 <lillith> anything you wish to add 21:45:09 <psi> the most common complaint from new users is that it's slow at start 21:45:22 <psi> is there any way to address that? 21:49:54 <Meeh> make the installer include RIs could help on the startup speed. But it's not a flawless solution 21:49:54 <Meeh> what if dose RIs goes down, or high load, etc etc 21:49:54 <psi> is there a "faster" way to initial seed besides prebundling? 21:49:54 <zzz> Meeh, is your reseed server script at all a bottleneck? is it slowing down reseeding at all? 21:49:54 <Meeh> higher the limit before the router stop reseeding to 2-300.. But not a flawless idea either 21:49:54 <lillith> Meeh,surely any solution would be better than none 21:49:54 <Meeh> it slows the server down if it's much used since it's a write lock on sqlite 21:49:56 <Meeh> I should make a mysql version, and those reseeders that could use it, would help a lot 21:51:20 <lillith> prebundling RIs could only speed up initial startup; worst case is that it's the same as now 21:51:20 <Meeh> then the file/db lock wouldn't be a bottleneck anymore 21:52:49 <Meeh> or whatever else *sql as long as it run as a server 22:01: <lillith> orion dosen't seem to be here, and i don't see how we can go on without him 22:04: <lillith> item 7: next meeting 22:06: <topiltzin> pre-bundling has some strong arguments against it, they are available on zzz.i2p 22:07: <lillith> i'l leave this to dg , presumably it will be 8.00 UTC next tuesday (18th) 22:08: <lillith> topiltzin, i'l take a look 22:09: <lillith> I'd say this meeting is now officially over then :)