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Quick recap

Present: chscrtr, mids, mrflibble, nemesis, Neo, nop, Nostradumbass

Meeting Log

--- Topic for #iip-dev is IIP Meeting - logfiles: http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/ nop, no meeting today? yes sorry ok welcome hi nop ;) hi agenda 1) welcome whats going on? everybody sleeps? 2) Happy New Year 3) Happy Holidays hi, happy new year 4) IIP hehe, happy new year too happy new year! :) 5) IIP logo contest 6) CryptoCon 4) IIP ok IIP it's kind of stagnant because of the holidays but I believe we're picking it back up any bug reports please send to iip@invisiblenet.net ok 5) IIP logo contest we'll being putting up something on our site about the rules etc and display the drawings we have so far please help out if you can get a free t-shirt and your logo on it 6) CryptoCon cool we're trying to get a program committee and some organizational planning for Jan 2004 to have cryptocon happen join #cryptocon for any assistance etc anyway, that's about it questions? questions? ;) nope ok meeting ajourned nope thanks. :) np oo, 1 thing about cryptocon is there a particular reason for organising your/your own? there are general crypto confs out there that cyou could submit stuff 2 well we want to attract businesses to meet cipherpunks and push cryptography more than it is this will be different fsck gotcha missed it ;) sorry folks :) it will just be a lot of work 4 u all is there still a point in bringing the logger here? lol hehe well mrflibble I don't think it will be --- Log opened Wed Jan 08 00:14:47 2003 00:14 -!- Topic for #iip-dev: IIP Meeting - logfiles: http://mids.student.utwente.nl/~mids/iip/ 00:14 [Users #iip-dev] 00:14 [ chscrtr] [ logger] [ mrflibble] [ Neo] [ Nostradumbass] [ w ] 00:14 [ co ] [ mids ] [ nemesis ] [ nop] [ UserX ] [ wilde] 00:14 -!- Irssi: #iip-dev: Total of 12 nicks [0 ops, 0 halfops, 0 voices, 12 normal] 00:15 < nop> we have a year to plan 00:15 < mrflibble> true 00:15 -!- Irssi: Join to #iip-dev was synced in 43 secs 00:16 < nop> plus we need to raise money 00:16 < nop> and this might help 00:16 < nop> since no one likes to donate 00:16 < nop> ;) 00:16 < chscrtr> error - less than a year 00:16 < nemesis> hm... nop, you are using knoppix right now, or? 00:17 < mrflibble> ic 00:17 < nop> suse right now 00:17 < mrflibble> u might need to advertise a lot to get the sponsers 00:17 < mrflibble> which will cost 00:18 < nemesis> are you think that iip is important/stable enough to show it the world? 00:18 < chscrtr> not that much, PR can be cheap 00:18 < nop> nemesis I don't think I'm showing it to the world 00:19 < mrflibble> hmm, i hope so 00:19 < nop> It's a conference, separate concept 00:19 < mids> ok, lizzy__ raised the point that the idleing time might give away too much information 00:19 < nemesis> hehe 00:19 < nop> yes it does 00:19 < mids> so (s)he suggested to disable it server side 00:19 < nop> we can take that out 00:19 < nop> I've been wanting to do that 00:19 < nop> ok 00:19 < nemesis> cause, it would be nice when future releases are packed for trustix ;) 00:19 < nop> will work on it 00:19 < mids> also that registering your nickname pinpoints you and makes you more traceble 00:19 < mids> so there should be a warning against that 00:19 < mids> . 00:20 < mids> I suggest that we metion the possible risks and issues more clear in the documentation 00:20 < mids> mention 00:20 < mrflibble> why is registering mae u more traceable? 00:20 < mrflibble> make 00:20 < mids> mrflibble: because once you identify, then you are guaranteed the same person as before 00:21 < mids> while if you just use the same nick, you might not be the same person 00:21 < mids> registering and identifying makes you pseudonymous 00:21 < mids> instead of anonymous 00:21 < mrflibble> oh 00:21 < mrflibble> but that's good tho 00:21 < mrflibble> trust is important 00:24 < mids> yes, but you build a public record of information 00:24 < mids> each time that you connect and say something, you add more info 00:24 < mids> there are tools which can identify the identity of people based on language patterns. 00:25 < mids> the ones that I tried are not that good, but it is often quite easy to spot errors and make conclusions. 00:25 < mids> I believe that it wouldn't harm to add a chapter about the risks even in an 'anonymous' environment to our manual 00:25 < mids> and I invite lizzy__ to start with that chapter. 00:25 < mids> . 00:25 < Nostradumbass> That's why passing your text through multiple language translators can be useful 00:27 * mids passes the microphone back to the audience 00:28 < mids> oh, excuse for joining that late, if someone can send me the logs of the first 15 minutes then I would much appreciate it. 00:28 < mids> . 00:29 < mrflibble> ooh 00:29 < mrflibble> gotcha 00:29 < mrflibble> mids, make that about 5 minutes :) 00:29 < mids> heh. 00:30 < mids> did nop already say something about 1.1-final? 00:30 < mids> like when we claim that it will be released ;) 00:31 < mrflibble> nope 00:31 < mrflibble> ill send u a capture 00:31 < mids> gracias 00:31 < mrflibble> shit, i cant 00:31 * mrflibble slaps mrflibble around a bit with a large trout 00:31 < mrflibble> ill cut and paste 00:32 < mrflibble> hope i dont flood myself off 00:32 < mids> in private please 00:32 < mids> okay, now this unofficial meeting is officially closed 00:32 < mids> :) 00:32 < nemesis> looool --- Log closed Wed Jan 08 00:33:43 2003