I2P Dev Meeting - November 14, 2006

15:07 <jrandom> 0) hi 15:07 <jrandom> 1) Net status 15:07 <jrandom> 2) Syndie dev status 15:07 <jrandom> 3) I2Phex mods 15:07 <jrandom> 4) ??? 15:07 <jrandom> 0) hi 15:07 * jrandom waves 15:07 <jrandom> weekly status notes posted up at http://dev.i2p.net/pipermail/i2p/2006-November/001318.html 15:07 <jrandom> (i'm late, so i'll let y'all catch up on those) 15:09 <jrandom> ok, lets jump on in to 1) net status 15:10 <jrandom> [eom] :) 15:10 * jrandom has had a good irc connection now (4+ days), so things are in pretty good shape. 15:11 <jrandom> we've also got those new peer capacity graphs on stats.i2p, detailing some interesting ratios 15:13 <jrandom> ok, anyone have anything else for 1) net status? 15:14 <striker> just that it looks nice. 15:14 <jrandom> w00t :) 15:15 <jrandom> ok, lets hop on over to 2) syndie dev status then 15:15 <green> I dunno U can have 4+ days conection on IRC,, I'm disconnected somewhat every 24h even with a router not so overloaded 15:15 <jrandom> green: unfortunately, its pretty arbitrary. 15:16 <jrandom> (or, more precicely, the cause is dependent upon many factors without a good control over them) 15:17 <green> any chance to really know why ? 15:17 <green> I've plenty of tunnels even where IRC goes down 15:18 <green> s/when 15:18 <jrandom> yes, there's lots we can do, but i'm focusing my time on getting syndie out first 15:18 <green> I know, so I've just to way more ;) 15:19 <green> s/wait 15:20 <green> gr f..ing keyboard 15:20 <green> ok, no more on 1 let's got to 2 15:20 <jrandom> w3rd 15:21 <jrandom> ok, not much more to add beyond whats in the notes (well, that can reasonably be brought up) 15:21 <jrandom> the webcaching discussion thread is http://forum.i2p.net/viewtopic.php?t=1958 15:22 <green> is there any plan on phpbb to syndie converter ? 15:22 <jrandom> and the latest mockup image referred to is http://dev.i2p.net/~jrandom/mockup/forum.webp 15:23 <jrandom> green: hmm, i thought we discussed that in one of the meetings, but looking back at the logs, it occurred outside of a meeting 15:24 <jrandom> short answer: doable, and maybe it'll get done, but its not on the immediate roadmap 15:24 <jrandom> at least, not bidirectional phpbb<-->syndie operation 15:24 <jrandom> phpbb-->syndie is easy (just suck in the posts, or use server side generation) 15:25 <jrandom> syndie-->phpbb is easy too 15:25 <jrandom> i'm not sure if the phpbb model of operation is what people will end up using syndie for though 15:25 <jrandom> but we'll see 15:28 <green> even just an phpbb -> syndie would be enough 15:30 <jrandom> cool, that'll be trivial (pulling phpbb's rendered html into a page & posting it). a bit more complex would be pulling from phpb's database itself, though that'd give more control (but then only the phpbb admin could do it - the former method can be done by anyone) 15:31 <badger> phpbb's admin is fairly flat.... not a challenge to get a hook of 15:32 <badger> and there are various rss plugins available for it 15:33 <jrandom> ah cool. actually, if someone wanted to start looking into that, it'd rule - just generate an HTML page (and if you need to reference other resources, do so with the syndie URIs [syndie.i2p.net/spec.html#uri] 15:34 <jrandom> (and if you need images/etc, just reference them as img src="attachment1" etc) 15:34 <jrandom> (and then we can shove 'em into a syndie post with no problem) 15:35 <jrandom> currently the message editor has "add text page" and "add html page" features... eventually we can toss in an "add page from the web..." that prompts you for a URL to fetch 15:37 <badger> http://forum.i2p/rss_news.php 15:38 <badger> translating that to syndie markup would probably be straightforward 15:39 <jrandom> aye (though remember, syndie markup /is html/. the uris are just... long and hard to read :) 15:41 <jrandom> ok, anyone have anything else on 2) syndie dev? 15:42 <jrandom> if not, lets jump to 3) i2phex mods 15:43 <jrandom> strike1 / Complication: wanna give us an update? 15:43 <strike1> I did a quick sanity check in regards to solving the connect to self problem 15:43 <strike1> http://forum.i2p.net/viewtopic.php?t=1965 15:44 <strike1> It seems to be working okay, but is merely preventing the local dest from being added to i2phex.hosts 15:44 <strike1> I am also looking into the hashing problems, and the downloading issues 15:45 <jrandom> kickass! 15:45 <strike1> The new mods in cvs seem to make for a slightly better i2phex so far too, I must say. 15:48 <strike1> Hopefully between Complication, I, and anyone else who wants to help we can solve them all soon. :) 15:49 <jrandom> wikked, thanks strike1 (& complication et al!) 15:50 <jrandom> ok, anyone have anything else for 3) i2phex mods? 15:51 <jrandom> if not, lets jump to 4) ??? 15:51 <jrandom> anyone have anything else they'd like to bring up for the meeting? 15:54 <green> any chance to have a dijjer port on I2P ? 15:55 <green> wow, don't worry, just a simple question ;) 15:55 <jrandom> probably not (dijjer port being a large number of public squid outproxies that cache) 15:56 <jrandom> but the ability to have content hosted when you're not online will be there with syndie 15:56 <jrandom> (and syndie can run over i2p) 15:56 <green> sure but how syndie can handle large content ? 15:57 <jrandom> technically, yes, but practically, no 15:58 <green> so using cache is not a so bad idea ? 15:58 <jrandom> otoh, we can have syndie distributed .torrent files for torrents that are encrypted with session keys that only those authorized on syndie know 15:59 <jrandom> there's a use case for caching large files, though i'm not sure if the freenet/dijjer caching method is the best route 15:59 <jrandom> (no pun intended) 15:59 <green> humm .torrent files so we have to rely on a cetral server / tracker 15:59 <green> s/central 16:00 <jrandom> (for instance, see http://freehaven.net/anonbib/#redblue ) 16:01 <jrandom> green: torrents can be distributed, and you can put the same data on lots of swarms 16:01 <jrandom> but functionally, we know that torrents work for transfering truckloads of data 16:03 <green> There isn't so much goo tracker on I2P, so currently we rely on a central server even if it's doable to distribute torrent over a lot of tracker 16:05 <jrandom> hmm, the trackers we have are good, there just isn't that much content :) 16:06 <strike1> I agree though looking at postman's tracker I was impressed with what I found there as opposed to last year. 16:07 <jrandom> aye, quite 16:07 <strike1> Lots of nice stuff :) 16:09 <jrandom> ok, anything else for the meeting? 16:10 <green> (baf) :) 16:10 * jrandom winds up 16:10 * jrandom *baf*s the meeting closed